Transport poverty - the real cost.

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remmington
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Re: Transport poverty - the real cost.

Post by remmington » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:44 pm

Tranberg wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:54 pm
MOT is nothing but a Hoover to suck up money.

At least you're allowed to filter, here it's considered reckless driving and can cost you your driver's license. (1 point each instance, 3 points and it's good bye license)
What is the point of a small scooter in town - if you can't filter? Most - no all of my journeys are all filtering in traffic. Every set of traffic lights - is up the middle of two rows of stationary cars - right to the front.

I get annoyed if I have to put my foot down on the journey thru traffic - slow but steady pace carving thru the traffic - on the outside or the inside of cars.

Which country do you come from?

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knapdog
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Re: Transport poverty - the real cost.

Post by knapdog » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:04 pm

remmington wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:04 am
Honda AFS110i Wave

1200 miles a year.

£200 depreciation a year
£20 road tax
£29 MOT test fee
£70 a year for tyres/chains/bulbs/filters/oil - general servicing - with me doing it and no labour.
£150 a year insurance - not sure of this as I add mine on my motortrade insurance
£52.50 in fuel at 130mpg for 1200 miles
£50 a year towards new gloves/helmet/waterproofs every few years (not an unreasonable estimate).

Gives a total of £571.50 a year or 48p a mile.


Come to the conclusion you want to be doing 4000 miles a year to dilute the fixed costs a bit - and make it a really cheap proposition!
Noooooo.A cub is cheaper ..... Get a cub.

Appreciation instead of Depreciation for starters.
£20 tax
£29 mot
£40 oil and filter (tyres last for years)
£40 Insurance in my case (Cornmarket)
£52.50 fuel at 1200 miles
I'm not putting cost of helmet, gloves etc as that's just bound to happen. In any case, I don't smoke, hardly drink and don't play golf so that's saving me thousands for starters.

£181.50 = 15p per mile

Yeah I agree that every so often you need new tyres etc but it's still a very cheap form of transport plus you'll get all your money back if/when you want to sell.

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Re: Transport poverty - the real cost.

Post by Bogger » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:58 pm

£40.00 for oil and filter ( there isn't one as you well know) . For various reasons, please never service or indeed touch any of my bikes. Preposterous.

Bogger :geek:

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knapdog
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Re: Transport poverty - the real cost.

Post by knapdog » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:16 pm

Bogger wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:58 pm
£40.00 for oil and filter ( there isn't one as you well know) . For various reasons, please never service or indeed touch any of my bikes. Preposterous.

Bogger :geek:
Thank you, boggster. Got a bit carried away there! :roll:

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Re: Transport poverty - the real cost.

Post by SYPAN » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:42 pm

As well as my cub I have a 1977 Camino in the garage.Historic vehicle so Free tax. No MOT. Insured as part of a multibike policy. 130 mpg. It's crap to ride and yours for only £500 if you want to buy an appreciating asset!
Our local bus costs £2.50 for a two mile journey for those without a pensioner's bus pass so around here public transport makes even my BMW seem cheap.

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Re: Transport poverty - the real cost.

Post by Tranberg » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:38 am

remmington wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:44 pm
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What is the point of a small scooter in town - if you can't filter? Most - no all of my journeys are all filtering in traffic. Every set of traffic lights - is up the middle of two rows of stationary cars - right to the front.
...

Which country do you come from?
Denmark. The ruling powers absolutely detest the idea of the herds beating the congestion and expensive and slow public transport, so filtering is strictly forbidden and we are only allowed to park in non-existent motorcycle parking spaces or where the cars are supposed to park. And we have to pay the same as for cars. We pay by an app, so there's no escape.

To further discourage filtering, Copenhagen is putting 10 cm high curbstone dividers in the middle of the streets, so any delivery truck stops all traffic in one direction, and there's no getting around, even on the tiniest scooter.

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